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T O P I C R E V I E WNYCdodgerThis is something that has been plaguing my mind for 3 long years. Please understand that it is affecting me for a reason and this post is pretty long.About 5 years ago I moved out of the city and went upstate and i met this kid (Lets call him C) and a group of a few of his friends. Lets call them "A, and B". About a few days afterwards I had a dream that I was walking in a park and up the hill A, B, and C were there and they attempted to jump and attack me, but they failed. Immediately I woke up and I couldn't understand why I had such a dream. Later on that day when I saw them I began to notice certain things about them. One minute they were friendly, and the next minute (when they were around each other) they would "act" differently. I try not to be quick to judge or make assumptions so I took my time to see if I can get get to know them more. I had a pretty rough childhood and I didn't want to bring any more drama up there, I wanted to start a new beginning and learn to be more sociable and open.But again, a few days later I had ANOTHER dream. I was at a party and "B" tried to attack me. He failed....miserably. I pretty much beat him up badly and kicked him into a closet. After that, following another reoccurring dream, I started to feel uneasy around those 3. "A" was actually pretty cool, but he pretty much followed whatever "B" wanted him to do. I had a feeling B was insecure and jealous of me for some reason, but my intentions were good and I tried to get to know everyone. One minute B would act cool, and then the next minute there was an issue. "C" approached me one day and explained that A and B had an issue with me and i should be "careful". I couldn't understand what was going on, it was like there were people plotting against me and behind my back. We all have characteristics that others may not like, but that doesn't mean they are bad people. Seems like while I was trying to understand others, they had something else against me.The next day I confronted A and B from what C told me. Face to face. I needed to know why there was tension amongst us. We were all going to the same place everyday, and I needed to know why would they accuse me of suspicions. By talking and communicating, we could get to the bottom of this and solve any miscommunications and misunderstandings. They told there was no issue and that "C" was the instigator and they would talk to him about it.....More confusion....B always tried to boast about who he was, and for some reason I always felt like he had an inferiority complex so he needed his friends to back him up. I felt he was full of unnecessary bravado. A was the level-headed one, and C was just a lost soul, but i had sympathy for him. The following day ALL 3 (just like in my dream) confronted me. Once I again, I was confused and felt like this was a plot. B told C he was going to "fight" me.....but he did nothing. It was just an empty threat. They accused me of talking about them behind their back and to my knowledge it wasn't true. I enjoy jokes and good times, and I desire peace and unity (especially coming from where I come from). They made me feel like i was a bad guy but i felt those 3 (and some others) were misunderstanding who I was, and it seemed like no one cared to listen. In short, I tolerated them and their mess, but it seemed like they were quick to judge me. B tried to make threats but nothing happened, I shrugged it off and waited for him to attack, but he never did. In fact, he tried to be friendly with me again the next day.There were other situations when we would meet up again and things would be awkward but I'm just telling you the main part. FOR SOME STRANGE REASON I can't help but wonder why that situation happened the way it did. i know this whole thread sounds childish but I can't help but wonder if my intuition was right, or if I was truly wrong. Did I do the right thing by walking away, or should i have confronted them fully. I would feel sympathy and compassion for B and C because it was like they were "lost". But I don't know, and i STILL don't know. Was I wrong?Im going to post the chart...but first i want to know if it would be a good idea to post it. I don't want to end up posting something that is considered to be spying. Is this is a question you feel you can answer? Thank you appleberry. I really need resolve with this and its weighing on me for a very important reason.appleberryI think it is not spying. You are pretty much asking whether you took the right steps, I think. I will get to you in a bit. I'm preoccupied with something today and also caught a cold. I don't feel on the ball for reading at the moment, but I will get to it when I feel able to focus properly. I have to look at that other question again too because I was afraid you were thinking of more than one girl at the time of asking, but I think not now. NYCdodgerOkay. I hope you feel better. Is it okay if i just post the chart anyway and you'll get to it when you're ready?appleberryNo worries - post it. I will wait til this cold goes though. NYCdodger appleberryCould you state the exact question you were thinking at the time of making the chart. Try to phrase it in a positive form. NYCdodger quote:Originally posted by appleberry:Could you state the exact question you were thinking at the time of making the chart. Try to phrase it in a positive form. I made the chart a few days ago when i asked the question.The questions is "Was my intuition right all along"?hannaramaaBecause the question concerns other people, a clearer question might be "Was I right about my friends?" Because now we have a house to look at and see how it aspects with you, the ASC.NYCdodger quote:Originally posted by hannaramaa:Because the question concerns other people, a clearer question might be "Was I right about my friends?" Because now we have a house to look at and see how it aspects with you, the ASC.Okay then thats the question. So was I right about my friends?NYCdodgerbump?NYCdodgerOk I don't mean to rush but I REALLY need some insight on this. ANYONE who is willing to share please do!hannaramaaFor what it's worth...you'd be Jupiter and your friends would be Mars and they're not aspecting. Your friends are in their 10th in Leo and the fact that they're represented by Scorpio... I don't think anything serious was going to happen but all the intimidation was for purely status-quo purposes and to appear dominant. They were threatened by you, felt insecure. Now let me look at what Jupiter is doing...hannaramaaJupiter in Virgo... were they all about being flashy while you were about your education and, frankly, smarter than them?NYCdodger quote:Originally posted by hannaramaa:Jupiter in Virgo... were they all about being flashy while you were about your education and, frankly, smarter than them?My intentions were purely friendships and building connections. But it seemed like everything I did was an issue. I COULD HAVE BEEN confrontational if i wanted to, but I was unsure because they would act fine one second, and the next (when they were all together) it was like i "sensed" tension from them.So they were the ones intimidated? So I'm guessing my intuition was right all along. I felt like I was being misunderstood by a group of people that knew nothing about me. And i tried to make things clear. I guess I should have stood my ground more instead of being tolerant. But they just seemed confused and for some odd reason I felt SYMPATHY towards them.As for the flashiness...i don't think so. Some people accused me of being conceited, and someone who thought they were better than everyone else, but that clearly was never the case. I just wanted to start a new more peaceful life and expand my social circle. But it seemed like they took my intentions the wrong way. I have a bad habit of feeling guilty very easily. Or sorry for others.Funny thing is it was only that particular group who felt that wayhannaramaaWhat stood out to me was you saying uou felt sympathy for them and there you are in the chart being Jupiter in Virgo, the sign that helps people selflessly, lol. But yes them being in Leo I do feel they were intimdated. NYCdodger quote:Originally posted by hannaramaa:What stood out to me was you saying uou felt sympathy for them and there you are in the chart being Jupiter in Virgo, the sign that helps people selflessly, lol. But yes them being in Leo I do feel they were intimdated. But the question is WHY?hannaramaaI just explained why I thought they were, and you more or less confirmed it. Analyze what the sign Virgo means to you in comparison to Leo and that might help. Don't think logically about this, just sit with it and see what comes up.hannaramaaYou're in your own 8th house and that's their 10th. They thought you had better social standing than them which is as much what I gathered from what you said as feedback.NYCdodgerOkay, I understand now. Definitely makes senseSo im guessing the Virgo wanted to help and be of good company while the Leo wanted the attention to themselves?This is funny because my Natal Sun is in Leo, and one of them was a Virgo (B) lolAubyanneI dream of alter-eigenstates all of the time. Oftentimes, the most immediate alter-state. Think of it this way; there was 'energy' for an attack, and you intuited that properly -- to the point where you 'observed' it (in the dreamstate). The mere act of observing tends to change things in the present eigenstate -- though, granted, not always. In short form, whatever was likely to happen was likely to NOT happen here -- in your presently observed eigenstate -- because the wave function already collapsed elsewhere -- in the dreamstate.I hope that I'm making sense; I fear I'm not. Let's try this. Those of us who are more 'attuned' are going to be 'observing' more of the eigenstates in which we are 'present'. Most often, this occurs in the dreamstate, when our brainwaves are at the proper level (theta, then delta) which allow for this sort of 'travel'. But, really, it's just observation.It makes prediction dicey, as, at times, it's a precognitive insight into what's the future of the present eigenstate; but as there is no past or future, it's being perceived as the present in a dreamstate. Either way, it's rather binary. They were going to attack you somewhere, just as they were going to not attack you with equal likelihood. It's Schrodinger's principle.NYCdodger quote:Originally posted by Aubyanne:I dream of alter-eigenstates all of the time. Oftentimes, the most immediate alter-state. Think of it this way; there was 'energy' for an attack, and you intuited that properly -- to the point where you 'observed' it (in the dreamstate). The mere act of observing tends to change things in the present eigenstate -- though, granted, not always. In short form, whatever was likely to happen was likely to NOT happen here -- in your presently observed eigenstate -- because the wave function already collapsed elsewhere -- in the dreamstate.I hope that I'm making sense; I fear I'm not. Let's try this. Those of us who are more 'attuned' are going to be 'observing' more of the eigenstates in which we are 'present'. Most often, this occurs in the dreamstate, when our brainwaves are at the proper level (theta, then delta) which allow for this sort of 'travel'. But, really, it's just observation.It makes prediction dicey, as, at times, it's a precognitive insight into what's the future of the present eigenstate; but as there is no past or future, it's being perceived as the present in a dreamstate. Either way, it's rather binary. They were going to attack you somewhere, just as they were going to not attack you with equal likelihood. It's Schrodinger's principle.Lol I understand. So basically I killed off the energy by simply being pre cognitively aware of it? So I had more control than they did, if thats what you're saying.I guess this means I have highly developed intuition. I try not to "think" that I do. Because I fear that i really don't, if that makes sense..NYCdodgerbump for appleberry
About 5 years ago I moved out of the city and went upstate and i met this kid (Lets call him C) and a group of a few of his friends. Lets call them "A, and B". About a few days afterwards I had a dream that I was walking in a park and up the hill A, B, and C were there and they attempted to jump and attack me, but they failed. Immediately I woke up and I couldn't understand why I had such a dream. Later on that day when I saw them I began to notice certain things about them. One minute they were friendly, and the next minute (when they were around each other) they would "act" differently. I try not to be quick to judge or make assumptions so I took my time to see if I can get get to know them more. I had a pretty rough childhood and I didn't want to bring any more drama up there, I wanted to start a new beginning and learn to be more sociable and open.
But again, a few days later I had ANOTHER dream. I was at a party and "B" tried to attack me. He failed....miserably. I pretty much beat him up badly and kicked him into a closet. After that, following another reoccurring dream, I started to feel uneasy around those 3. "A" was actually pretty cool, but he pretty much followed whatever "B" wanted him to do. I had a feeling B was insecure and jealous of me for some reason, but my intentions were good and I tried to get to know everyone. One minute B would act cool, and then the next minute there was an issue. "C" approached me one day and explained that A and B had an issue with me and i should be "careful". I couldn't understand what was going on, it was like there were people plotting against me and behind my back. We all have characteristics that others may not like, but that doesn't mean they are bad people. Seems like while I was trying to understand others, they had something else against me.
The next day I confronted A and B from what C told me. Face to face. I needed to know why there was tension amongst us. We were all going to the same place everyday, and I needed to know why would they accuse me of suspicions. By talking and communicating, we could get to the bottom of this and solve any miscommunications and misunderstandings. They told there was no issue and that "C" was the instigator and they would talk to him about it.....More confusion....
B always tried to boast about who he was, and for some reason I always felt like he had an inferiority complex so he needed his friends to back him up. I felt he was full of unnecessary bravado. A was the level-headed one, and C was just a lost soul, but i had sympathy for him. The following day ALL 3 (just like in my dream) confronted me. Once I again, I was confused and felt like this was a plot. B told C he was going to "fight" me.....but he did nothing. It was just an empty threat. They accused me of talking about them behind their back and to my knowledge it wasn't true. I enjoy jokes and good times, and I desire peace and unity (especially coming from where I come from). They made me feel like i was a bad guy but i felt those 3 (and some others) were misunderstanding who I was, and it seemed like no one cared to listen. In short, I tolerated them and their mess, but it seemed like they were quick to judge me. B tried to make threats but nothing happened, I shrugged it off and waited for him to attack, but he never did. In fact, he tried to be friendly with me again the next day.
There were other situations when we would meet up again and things would be awkward but I'm just telling you the main part. FOR SOME STRANGE REASON I can't help but wonder why that situation happened the way it did. i know this whole thread sounds childish but I can't help but wonder if my intuition was right, or if I was truly wrong. Did I do the right thing by walking away, or should i have confronted them fully. I would feel sympathy and compassion for B and C because it was like they were "lost". But I don't know, and i STILL don't know. Was I wrong?
Im going to post the chart...but first i want to know if it would be a good idea to post it. I don't want to end up posting something that is considered to be spying. Is this is a question you feel you can answer? Thank you appleberry. I really need resolve with this and its weighing on me for a very important reason.
I will get to you in a bit. I'm preoccupied with something today and also caught a cold. I don't feel on the ball for reading at the moment, but I will get to it when I feel able to focus properly. I have to look at that other question again too because I was afraid you were thinking of more than one girl at the time of asking, but I think not now.
quote:Originally posted by appleberry:Could you state the exact question you were thinking at the time of making the chart. Try to phrase it in a positive form.
I made the chart a few days ago when i asked the question.
The questions is "Was my intuition right all along"?
quote:Originally posted by hannaramaa:Because the question concerns other people, a clearer question might be "Was I right about my friends?" Because now we have a house to look at and see how it aspects with you, the ASC.
Okay then thats the question.
So was I right about my friends?
you'd be Jupiter and your friends would be Mars and they're not aspecting. Your friends are in their 10th in Leo and the fact that they're represented by Scorpio... I don't think anything serious was going to happen but all the intimidation was for purely status-quo purposes and to appear dominant. They were threatened by you, felt insecure. Now let me look at what Jupiter is doing...
quote:Originally posted by hannaramaa:Jupiter in Virgo... were they all about being flashy while you were about your education and, frankly, smarter than them?
My intentions were purely friendships and building connections. But it seemed like everything I did was an issue. I COULD HAVE BEEN confrontational if i wanted to, but I was unsure because they would act fine one second, and the next (when they were all together) it was like i "sensed" tension from them.
So they were the ones intimidated? So I'm guessing my intuition was right all along. I felt like I was being misunderstood by a group of people that knew nothing about me. And i tried to make things clear. I guess I should have stood my ground more instead of being tolerant. But they just seemed confused and for some odd reason I felt SYMPATHY towards them.
As for the flashiness...i don't think so. Some people accused me of being conceited, and someone who thought they were better than everyone else, but that clearly was never the case. I just wanted to start a new more peaceful life and expand my social circle. But it seemed like they took my intentions the wrong way. I have a bad habit of feeling guilty very easily. Or sorry for others.
Funny thing is it was only that particular group who felt that way
quote:Originally posted by hannaramaa:What stood out to me was you saying uou felt sympathy for them and there you are in the chart being Jupiter in Virgo, the sign that helps people selflessly, lol. But yes them being in Leo I do feel they were intimdated.
But the question is WHY?
So im guessing the Virgo wanted to help and be of good company while the Leo wanted the attention to themselves?
This is funny because my Natal Sun is in Leo, and one of them was a Virgo (B) lol
The mere act of observing tends to change things in the present eigenstate -- though, granted, not always. In short form, whatever was likely to happen was likely to NOT happen here -- in your presently observed eigenstate -- because the wave function already collapsed elsewhere -- in the dreamstate.
I hope that I'm making sense; I fear I'm not. Let's try this. Those of us who are more 'attuned' are going to be 'observing' more of the eigenstates in which we are 'present'. Most often, this occurs in the dreamstate, when our brainwaves are at the proper level (theta, then delta) which allow for this sort of 'travel'. But, really, it's just observation.
It makes prediction dicey, as, at times, it's a precognitive insight into what's the future of the present eigenstate; but as there is no past or future, it's being perceived as the present in a dreamstate. Either way, it's rather binary. They were going to attack you somewhere, just as they were going to not attack you with equal likelihood. It's Schrodinger's principle.
quote:Originally posted by Aubyanne:I dream of alter-eigenstates all of the time. Oftentimes, the most immediate alter-state. Think of it this way; there was 'energy' for an attack, and you intuited that properly -- to the point where you 'observed' it (in the dreamstate). The mere act of observing tends to change things in the present eigenstate -- though, granted, not always. In short form, whatever was likely to happen was likely to NOT happen here -- in your presently observed eigenstate -- because the wave function already collapsed elsewhere -- in the dreamstate.I hope that I'm making sense; I fear I'm not. Let's try this. Those of us who are more 'attuned' are going to be 'observing' more of the eigenstates in which we are 'present'. Most often, this occurs in the dreamstate, when our brainwaves are at the proper level (theta, then delta) which allow for this sort of 'travel'. But, really, it's just observation.It makes prediction dicey, as, at times, it's a precognitive insight into what's the future of the present eigenstate; but as there is no past or future, it's being perceived as the present in a dreamstate. Either way, it's rather binary. They were going to attack you somewhere, just as they were going to not attack you with equal likelihood. It's Schrodinger's principle.
Lol I understand. So basically I killed off the energy by simply being pre cognitively aware of it? So I had more control than they did, if thats what you're saying.
I guess this means I have highly developed intuition. I try not to "think" that I do. Because I fear that i really don't, if that makes sense..
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